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Hey monkey424, good to see you've been working on this game. Congrats on making to the (almost) completion stage. So happy for you! 

Way to go, LimpingFish. Nice of you to paint all the users' grievances as "they won't let me write anti-trans rhetoric or alternative facts". Very nice tactic.

Then please, air your particular grievance. This is the first I've heard of your apparent upset with your experience here, and, despite what you may think, I'm more that happy to discuss it in a friendly manner.

Thank you, LimpingFish. You're a nice person.  I've always been grateful about the games you've gifted me (and others) in the past. 

It's funny you ask me to "air my grievance" right after when your fellow mod makes a "joke" about the very same thing (but then backpedals when confronted by Darth).

This might be the first time you've heard about my "upset" as you put it, but I've been unhappy for a while now. And no, my unhappiness has nothing to do with not being allowed to express my 'right-wing', 'conspiracy theories', 'anti-science' views. I'm a left-leaning person myself. Can't believe I've to clarify that, because otherwise, I'd be labelled "just another guy who hates he can't post his nut-job views".

To be honest, I was very hesitant to post even a word here, knowing the reaction that'd come out. I only posted after Darth's post, encouraged to see that I'm not the only one who sees the problem in the attitudes of the users.

I've been in this community for 7 years now, and I've seen a lot of stuff that has gone down over the years. I've been friends with many people here (and still keep in touch with some of them on Steam, IRC, Facebook from time to time). Several users have been disillusioned with the way things are run here. They have told me so and others in private. It's just that no one wants to confront people or air their dirty laundry in public. No one wants to be "that guy". I didn't want to become "that guy" either, so I've kept quiet and drifted away from the forums myself. I still tend to browse the forums now and then (without logging in). I've seen the sorry state of affairs of the forums nowadays. When this thread popped up, I thought maybe I should post and give my opinion on why it is so. But, like I said, I was very hesitant to post here.

Frankly, I don't have the time or energy to post back-and-forth detailed responses. There's no point. You can dismiss all my posts as the ramblings of a madman or "specious reasoning". Everything is fine and dandy, after all.

And Khris, I tried to be nice with you by not mentioning your name. You can try to justify all your toxicity however you want. But it won't change the fact that you've spewed a lot of vitriol in the past.

People seem to be throwing nebulous descriptions like "hostile", "snobbery", and "draconian" around as though they're largely accepted as accurately representing how the community is run. You're welcome to your opinions, of course, but if all you've got to go on is, for instance, our unwillingness to tolerate anti-trans rhetoric, or our desire to limit the spread of conspiracy theories or "alternative facts", then maybe the problem isn't as rampant as you think.

Way to go, LimpingFish. Nice of you to paint all the users' grievances as "they won't let me write anti-trans rhetoric or alternative facts". Very nice tactic.

Sorry, but if you guys have already made up your mind that everything is fine and dandy, who am I to change that? You all ask for examples, yet you all seem to have conveniently forgotten the several-pages' long threads over the past years. Nothing ever came out of those. Why would I waste my time digging them up and linking here when nothing is gonna happen now?

Thanks for asking the tough question, BarbWire.

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I worry that the AGS forums have become too... elitist. Too stringent. Too unfriendly and new users are put-off by it. I have seen so many times where a new user posts an honest (innocent) question that has, admittedly, been asked countless times and they get hammered down for daring to ask! Or a slight rule violation brings down the wrath of the community! A little on-the-nose coming from me (for my strict enforcement of the GIP rules) but I've loosened up a LOT in recent years. We want to expand our beloved community. Not chase people off with draconian rules and attitudes. A few years ago I had a conversation with somebody (I think it was on pixeljoint) and they specifically mentioned they love AGS (the program) but can't stand the attitudes of the community.

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This. This is the exact reason why I've been put off with this community.

We've got an infamous member who, in the name of "helping the beginner", likes to pound on the noob and tear him to shreds. If it really bothers him, why doesn't he let others answer the questions and let it be? Because he can't let go of his "kingdom", of course. Apparently no mod has been willing to tell him to tone down his toxic behavior or sod off. Many users have complained about this, but their complaints went unheeded.

Then we have users (especially a certain mod) who really love to jump down the throat of anyone who dares to post even a slightly differing opinion. This very vocal (and very hostile) minority has chased off even the longtime members from this community. Well done, guys. Now y'all can happily live in your echo chamber.

The forums have been in decline for a long time, but nobody wants to admit that. Those old-timers who have remained are unwilling to change. It seems they've resorted to let the community go to waste.

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I also think it's possible that because programs like Unity, Game Maker, Godot, etc have done a better job staying modernized (while maintaining the ability to be "retro") and work on modern platforms (Android, iOS, etc) while AGS still really only works on PCs. People want their games to be seen by a lot of people and the PC gaming market isn't what it even just 10 years ago.

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Yes. This is definitely the reason why many AGS Devs have moved on to other game engines. AGS just doesn't cut it anymore, unfortunately. I know at least one dev who moved on to another engine because he didn't want to fight with the AGS engine to make it compatible with other platforms, especially when the other game engines support multi-platform out of the box. Kudos to those who make AGS work on other platforms, but not everyone has enough resources or programming aptitude to do it.

As much as I love PC and PC Gaming, the reality is that most of the people would rather play games on other platforms, if possible. And point-and-click adventure games tend to lend themselves quite well to "point (your finger)-and-touch" on mobile devices. Mobile gaming is a big market that can't be ignored.

I love and respect all the hard work that Crimson Wizard and others have done to build and maintain AGS, but it seems like they're fighting a losing battle. Unless AGS radically changes, it will continue to lose out.

EDIT: You know what I hate? People with Scarface posters. That movie sucks.

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I suggest using Automate the Boring Stuff with Python. It's a free book. Teaches you Python (and programming) from scratch along with examples and gives practice projects to work on at the end of each chapter. It also has an accompanying video course which you can use if you benefit from learning in a video format.

Stay away from Django and other frameworks for the time being...

Are you sure your browser is not part of a botnet? I'd like to look at the request log of ublock, that is the third icon in the ublock popup.

You think I'd not have noticed already if that was the case? Thanks for assuming I'm an idiot. Here's the log for your "viewing pleasure":

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It has FB blocked because I have activated Fanboy's Social Media filtering list.

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The site keeps making requests infinitely. It made over 15K requests in just one minute which were blocked by my adblocker. If I let the site keep loading, the number of requests even surpass 100K+.

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[Resident Evil 6]

My generous SantaFish, may I please have Resident Evil 6?

[Resident Evil 5 Gold Edition]

Dear LimpingSanta, may I have Resident Evil 5 Gold Edition please?

[Tropico 5]

Hi LimpingFish!

Thanks a lot for doing this giveaway. May I please have Tropico 5? I really enjoyed playing Tropico 4 (when it was given away for free).

Wish you a merry Christmas / happy holidays.

booty rather than beauty.

[Adam Ruins the Internet]

Yup, it's Adam Ruins Everything! I cropped the network's name in the first two screenshots to make it a little harder to guess.

Looking on imdb, I'm guessing the first picture is from Adam Ruins Conspiracy Theories and the last one is from Adam Ruins Having a Baby.

The first screenshot is from Adam Ruins the Internet. The second is from Adam Ruins Immigration. You're right about the last one.

Okay, here's another screenshot featuring the main cast:
[imgzoom]https://i.imgur.com/Qsy1Zsz.png[/imgzoom]

Haha, I knew that screenshot would trip people! None of the guesses are correct so far.

Here's another shot:
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No to both.

[1. Hotel California --- Live in Washington DC 1977]

I can never get tired of listening to Hotel California. The intro, chord sequence, and the outro solo---everything about this song is so mesmerizing. There are three versions of this song which I repeatedly listen to:

1. Hotel California --- Live in Washington DC 1977

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bFuqQlcvOE

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2. Hotel California --- MTV Unplugged 1994

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctXeHc9_kr8

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3. Hotel California --- Don Felder's Acoustic Guitar Performance in The Jeff Probst Show

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir6PCWx1ruA

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I'm sure Brawling Go must a nice manga, but I'm afraid this isn't it.

Here's another shot:
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Couldn't we have also a small icon to IRC at top?

No. IRC is dead.

Okay, here's the next one:

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