Ok, another try at God walking. Comments and criticisms please! Once I get the God walking animations done we are restarting work on Godquest/Creation!
EDIT: Arms moving front view. Something odd though.
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/godwalkfront5.gif)
EDIT: Front and Back view added. Wobble reduced.
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/godwalkfront4.gif)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/godwalkback3.gif)
EDIT: New God Modified to Look like Old God -
GOD 3 -
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/godwalkleft2.gif)
GOD 2 -
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/godwalkleft1.gif)
The earlier walk animation -
GOD 1 -
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/godwalkright.gif)
Old front and back view -
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/godwalkfront3.gif)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/godwalkback2.gif)
Hate to say it, but I prefer the old walk animation. It's more gentle, there's a generally more celestial feel to it.
Argh! What bout the actual God character? First or second?
Second :-\
Man, I feel really evil now. And that's AGA's job.
I also prefer the old one, but the new one is nice too. Pick whatever fits nicest with the rest of the game.
Glad to see this is continuing :)
I don't like the way his nose sticks up, looks very strange, but the animation is great.
What about in these backgrounds, which version looks better?
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/indigo_berries1.jpg)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/indigo_berries2.jpg)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/officext1.jpg)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/officext2.jpg)
And yes, the nose can be taken down a bit.
-_< Second. Sorry. But the second guy looks better. I really love the backgrounds and I wouldnt want them to be bad due to a misplaced character...
The old one really does look a lot better. I love the way he blends in with the background, it really is perfect. Sorry, but I've got to agree with everyone else here.
Great Neole! I love it! The third one is the best.
Hey, you know, the only thing that annoyed me in the first god version, was the fact that he haden't personality. I mean, he looked like if he was a statue, or something like that.
You tried to make a friendlier/funnier god, and I think that's good. But the problem is that he looks now like Bacchus, you know, the god of vine with crazy eyes and a red nose. Why not use this version for another character ? It's a good character, well animated and all.
Anyway, I think you should modify a bit the first god version : just open his eyes ;D
Edit :
Oh, I forgot : I have bad news.
I will go to the army from 14 july to 24 october. I will be back only on week-ends, but I think I will be motivated to work on it every saturday, after a week of pain.
Yeah, Dorcan is right here - Just modify the first version slightly, no need to do a new one. Open his eyes or add a more lively facial expression. He looks a bit like a sleepwalker right now. ;D
Both versions look great, though - But the older one just fits better.
oh my god!
:o :o :o
that's frickin' awesome! shoot!
I think the earlier god matches better with the backgrounds, but the game can go with either one really.
I'm now going to offer to buy you a drink.
Fantastic work with animation Neole!
I prefer the first version too (it just looks more... godly ;)).
Thanks for all the comments! I can see the old God is almost unanimously a hot favourite. However I liked the animation and colors of the new God better so I modified it to look like the old God a bit, less drunk and more 'Godly'.
Is God 1 still better than God 3?
Argh Dorcan! What a shocker that is! But with your skills and experience I think you can do more scripting in a few hours than most of us can in a week!
Hey! Dionissius is my fave god!
This one is better.
But I think the lines should be smoother, and not black.
I tried to modify this one, so that it matches the background style:
(http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://galileo.spaceports.com/~dorcan/images/godwalkleft2-modified.gif)
(http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://galileo.spaceports.com/~dorcan/images/god-and-background-modified.jpg)
It's a tie now :)
What i like about old version: the simplicity of his face and closed eyes and some colors to pencil lines
What i like about new version: red blush and body
Oh, and i somehow prefer the rough pencil-look over smooth one. It looks more interesting.
Old one! Old One ;D ;D ;D!
He's alot softer and godly looking.
I must say that I prefer the old one. I'm not too hot on the blush and blonde hair of the new one.
But then, maybe it should look like Alanis Morisette (if you don't understand, see the movie Dogma) ;)
I agree that the first version is better. It would blend in with the backgrounds more, though, if the lines were sharpened, and the form/ colours were made more definate, especially in the bach and butt areas.
Argh! Somehow I find the first version (God 1) very dull and uninspiring, as Dorcan said, no personality. And I tend to agree with Igor on the rough pencilled look being more interesting than the smoothened outlines. Plus the closed eyes, but everyone else wants them opened.
Anyway, this is the main sprite so I'm sure I'll be changing it again before the game is done (along with Lucy the Devil, if y'all remember him).
Rookworm - which God number dyu mean by the first version?
Vel, who is Dionissius ??
SSH - I'll have Dorcan try and script both Gods in the game itself so you can have a look. I think God3 looks way better than God1 in the game itself. Also I will now draw the inventory items and objects and other characters (non aimated for now) so Dorcan can finish scripting Day 1. I have the comprehensive list you made. Dorcan what else dyu need besides these to finish the scripting for Day 1? You will have to use the non-animated Lucy for now.
Wow, with Neole's art and Dorcan's scripting, this game should be excellent, hope the story holds up, and no doubt you've found a good musician too.
Ah you havent seen the test demo Dorcan scripted. Fantabulous stuff! The other members of the team are rather excellent as well.
sorry evryone, but i much prefer the first one, or rather Dorcans newest modification of the first one, btw, this game looks like fun!
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God3 with fixed hair would be my favorite. Fixed meaning all white.
Alrighty then. The first God (God3) with the hair whitened seems to be good for mostly everyone. I'll do some work on the elbow and start on the front and back views.
OT - Dorcan, are you getting my emails?
Front and Back view added. Their outlines are different from the sketchy side walk ones so I'll have to change that later. What do you think of them?
They both lack frames.
Looking really good! However my suggestion would be to stick to the type of walk you used on the side animation- only up and down animation (no leaning). It's good to keep animation consistence, otherwise it may look a bit strange in game.
Barcik, yeah I guess I should add some other movements too.
Igor, gotcha! I never thought of that.
The side-to-side does kind of make God look like a weeble (Weebles wobble but they dont fall down!)
http://www.stuffwelove.co.uk/weebles.htm
Yer right. I'll have to reduce the side bob a lot. Added a new animation with the reduced side bob (just deleted the extreme side frames).
Neole, it boobs like a bottle of wine.
Neole, it bobs like a bottle of wine.
i like the new ones... you need to change some colours to make him blend in on the backgrounds..
maybe you could make him move more when walking..
i was inspired, so i made an example... this is too much movement tho, and far to skecthy.. ;P
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/godwalker2.gif)
i hope you didnt notice that his eyebrows disappears...
Like the anim, Synth. It kinda points out the problems with the one Neole did:
1. The robe should obey gravity even when the body underneath moves around
2. The arms should wave a bit
That looks very cool Synth! How did you do that, paper drawn or mouse or tablet?
SSH - gotcha! Will change those. What I did was draw a front view and shake it a bit instead of really animating it..
I was debating on wether to add footwear or not but decided against it, thining it wold give a more roman feel than godly. Wha dyu say?
neole: just mouse...
Neole, I think he should move his hands a bit. Otherwise, it's great!
Synth thats great work for mouse!!
Vel, moved the arms.
Neole, ajust a frame more between the arm movements should do it
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/godwalkfront5.gif)(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/godwalkfront4remake.gif)
before - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - after
maybe something more like this?
i know it's just flipped over in half of the animation, but it gives a hint to what it might look like...
Thats very smooth Synth! Looks much better than mine. I will adjust mine accordingly. I dont think I can use that many frames in the game. How do you make that again? In photoshop? Onion skin by making layers transparent or side by side?
You really MUST write a small tutorial on how to get animation that smooth, Synthetique! ;D
--Erwin
Neole:
Thank you!
1: It's only four frames and flipped..
2: I made it in photoshop. One document, different layers.
Erwin_Br:
Heh.. I would if i could write a tutorial.. ;)
I kinda prefer the old one both in style and animation, though the closed eyes are a drawback, but what synthetique did is beatiful. Damn, you are all so talented!
Hmm, I've been following your project for a while but didn't get a chance to post, do you need any help with puzzles? Cause that's basically my best area after story, and would love to help with this project. :) I don't know what puzzles you have finished and what ideas you have for others...
P.s. perhaps god should blink once in a while, say once every two steps (thus once in a walk cycle). I'm not sure if this'll work though, but god looks a bit too awake in the new version. :P
Anyway, great work!
Edit:
I had an idea, to create stars (if we need to) god could use a sharp object ot make small holes in the black fabric. Just a thought. Of course this would be day 2.
Also I really like the GodHopper! Ali did a brilliant job! It could be the official transportation method for gods. Hmm, if Lucy is still supposed to hinder god's progress in the later days, he could mess with gods godhopper and thus make it useless until reapairs are done (which takes a day) and so he must find a different temporary means of transportation or borrow/steal (:P) someone else's godhopper lol. What do you think?
Oh and I was just wondering what puzzles are already one and what need work on (in the first day)?
Edit 2: This just came to me, perhaps the book you thought god gets, creation in 6 easy steps/creation for dummies (I can't choose which is better lol) perhaps the tips are vague slightly riddly instruction for the day. Umm.. And maybe as an obstacle Lucy changes the 'tip of the day' one day and confuses us into doing something else, whice is like a red herring only may be useful later on. It would be like a printed tip with handwriting drawn over it a little sloppilly to make it look like the person was in a hurry. And maybe god says: "Hmm, that's odd, I didn't know that was a part of creation.."
:P
I'm flowing with ideas here! lol
Btw, have you decided on a name for the game yet? I really liked Neloe's "Oh God!".
lol
Edit 3: I'm too excited to stop thinking of this dammit. :P
Now what was my idea?
Ah yes, maybe if god uses the Godhopper to get to the universe he's creating, on the first day there will only be one screen so maybe he will stop his vehicle in the bottom-right corner (with the brakes making a noise lol) and when he's painting it with light there could be an animation of him painting and the background gradually turns white in places, then "a few hours later"(or however long it takes) he is done. Alternatively he might just spill the paint all over and that would save time, but maybe present an obstacle later on, where he might need white paint for something and has none so he must find a different solution, and if he had painted and taken time he would have some paint left. Hmm, if there was a choice between painting and spilling, that could give the game more replay value..
Omg, this post is long...
:)
Oh and btw, has anyone worked on any dialogs yet? what dialogs will be required for day one? Richard of York, The iimortals daughter (if I'm not mistaken?), and umm, who else, Lucy?
Oh and are you planning to make a website for the game? It could link to all the threads about the game here.
Ginny, thanks for all the ideas!
We do have an official team now, except for one missing member. Still if you want to help so much (unofficially), maybe we could let you in the secret website as an outside critic/consultant/ideabank. I'll consult with the other team members. They are already working on dialogs descriptions etc too. All on Day One yet though.
Sure that sounds great Neole ;).
Hmm, who is the missing member I wonder... Rofl.
I'd be glad to be a critic\consultant\ideabank(hehe)! :)
If it's too late, no matter, I'll still love the finished product! And I'm glad you liked the ideas :).
IM me with the desicion.
Or post here, doesn't matter really lol.
I also wanted to ask if there had been any more threads on this game that I missed. So far I think this is the 5th?
Yeah I think this is the fifth thread.
The finished product is a long way off, since we are still on Day 1 of 7. We are a making it a relaxed but determined project.
The missing member is Ali, we just cant find him anywhere and he's supposed to be finishing/coloring the backgrounds.
Please IM me your email address so I can contact you whenever I have the decision from the other members.
IM sent.
Btw, ar you planning voice acting for the game? Just wondering. It would be great with voice acting. Of course, it'll be great without as well ;).
Gotcha Ginny! As for voice acting, all that would come later, once we manage to get the game at least halfway done. There's no point thinking about that now!
Naturally. Umm, there was something else I though of at night (I have many ideas at night) that I wanted to ask. Hmm..
Oh, right, where does god liv? he must have a house somewhere in the divine world, or he'd be homeless, rofl.. I wonder what his house would be like..
Good idea. Maybe we can have Him wake up in His house on Day2. Since Day one is a one day affair we can keep the house as a new location for the next day.
Yeah, the house shouldn't appear in the first day, it won't be of much use anyway. Have you found a way to get measurment/meausring tape?
Hold on I'll send you the secret hideout info soon. Not that there's much happening there, but its better you post your ideas there!
Sure :).
anything new we can look at?
Not yet, I've got to get a whole day devoted to the game to get the Day One artwork done.