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Draft · Sat 18/02/2012 17:08:55

Quote from: Khris on Sat 18/02/2012 13:23:59
You're clearly projecting your unjustified entitlement onto me.
I'm not young, I don't aspire to be a cop and my job doesn't revolve around the web either.

You are breaking forum rules, it's as simple as that. I don't care about your excuses.
I get that one post full of avoidable newbie questions won't completely ruin these forums, my point is that you don't get special treatment just because you whined about having a full workday.

But since I'm not a mod, all I can do is point out why I think what you do is obnoxious. So by all means, go ahead.

First of all I would like for you to be very clear on how it is that I am breaking forum rules. Secondly I have asked for zero special treatment, you have tagged me with that, I have the same questions as a lot of other users and use the forums to find those answers. Your telling me that this is lazy, I ask you how. If I chose to look up a topic on the web and post in their forum instead of going to the library and that is wrong then please explain to me exactly how a forum is used and what the point is. I must have missed something.

I am not abusing this forum or breaking any rules, I am simply utilizing it for the tool that it is (This is the Beginners Tech Forum last time I checked) and I can clearly see that the board is full of posts that I am quite sure can be looked up via any number of the vasat resources available here at AGS, so I ask you again God how I am wrong!

If all you want to do is argue then choose someone else's post (there are plenty), I would prefer to be constructive on this one and heaven forbid you ever do become a mod, you sound like the Mod Nazis on in-game chats.

Draft

DoorKnobHandle · Sat 18/02/2012 17:21:12

You are seriously asking us how it is lazy to just have other people search for solutions for you instead of doing the effort yourself?

And it is right there in the forum rules that you should not do this: don't come here and ask stuff that's right there in the manual. Khris pointed this out in a nice way. No need to get all defensive.

Construed · Sat 18/02/2012 17:37:12

Hey daft.
Me and khris have had our falling outs from time to time.
But you'll find that he is one of the most genius ags coders in these forums.
So its very much more than likely that you'll need his help in the future.
I have a million times and will probably continue to.
So what I'm saying is its just usually best to just agree to disagree around here and move on.
I am by no means judging your talent or skill, because i can see that you are highly skilled and talented.

Just a friendly word of advice: Don't drink the dragons breath!

pun pun "QFG1 quote from my game"

Khris · Sat 18/02/2012 18:57:27

Quote from: Draft on Sat 18/02/2012 17:08:55First of all I would like for you to be very clear on how it is that I am breaking forum rules.

Like I said, you didn't exhaust the available resources before asking stuff here. You even said so yourself:

QuoteI am thinking I can add graphics like background color and borders but I have not gotten that far in manuals yet.

When I pointed out, in a nice way, with a

on top, that the technical forums are meant to be used after you tried to solve a problem on your own, you replied by basically saying "no, because I work hard".

At least you said you wouldn't be opening multiple threads, but you still broke the rules and stated the desire to continue to do so after this was pointed out to you. You then got defensive, rambling about people policing all the forums and Mod Nazis. I'm guessing this isn't the first forum where you stepped on some toes right after joining.

Enjoy your stay.

Draft · Sun 19/02/2012 00:34:54

I am sorry that you feel I am breaking rules but if one cannot ask a simple question, whether they know the answer or simply want confirmation, on a forum then the forum is pointless and driven by self important ideals.

This is the trend with most forums, you don't have to be a troublemaker, just ask a question. My questions were rather simple and I am sure no one that answered had to dig up any encyclopedias to reply to my post.

Believe me, when I posted a question I was constantly working on five other areas simultaneously, so no I was not being lazy. I apologize for using you and your forum and from now on I will certainly refrain from doing so.

A word in closing, I have a very capable mind and I am quite able to learn anything on my own. It would be nice sometimes to have the help of an experienced community to streamline the process but I guess that is not to be.

Thanks
Draft

DoorKnobHandle · Sun 19/02/2012 06:21:38

EDIT: post removed after half a minute. It's not worth it to start a discussion here.

Khris · Sun 19/02/2012 07:55:33

Draft:
How thick are you? Could you stop your self-righteous idiocy for two seconds and accept that there are different kinds of questions and a forum isn't pointless just because a certain type of question is undesirable?

Let me be clear that I know exactly where you're coming from. Of course it's tempting to ask people who can probably answer you on the spot instead of searching for 15 minutes in a helpfile. But it is against the rules for a reason. So stfu or gtfo.

Edit:

ZSNES Forum
[rules: I) think, then post   II) never ask us for roms]

Re: When is the new version going to be available?  |  Mario_Lover
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fullscreen problem (flickering)                     |  SNES_Fan
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Where can I download F-Zero?                        |  Draft

Calin Leafshade · Sun 19/02/2012 16:45:54

Man, this topic is great. I love shit like this.

although it bothers me that he used the word "atypical" when clearly he meant "typical"

What I would like is if there was like a dance happening around the action. Possibly on rollerskates.

*OR* alternatively the dance was happening in the middle and the action happened around the edges, with Khris chasing n00bs around the edges like a scooby doo chase.

Can we vote on that? Or alternatively we could start three topics and discuss how to move forward with the idea for 5 months.

OOO SATIRE!

Khris · Sun 19/02/2012 16:58:25

Yeah, I noticed, I'm having a lot of really dumb discussions lately. Is it me or are there more idiots around than usual? Probably both.

miguel · Sun 19/02/2012 17:36:56

I've got a big smile on my face right now!
I admit I love this kind of shit as well!

I mean, spending time on the beginners thread is like watching Halloween for the first time, you're always looking for when Freddy is going to show up! Ask the wrong question and you're f.....! Ahhhh, the thrill!

Honestly, Draft, you want Khris on your side here. He's the one that has your answers when you need them. And admit it, like 90% of everybody here, we do abuse his patience. Nearly everything can be found on the manual and forum.
Just put yourself in his place and imagine answering the same questions every day?

Rollerskates and dancing Scooby-doo style? I'll vote on that one!

Edit: I didn't thank you Khris for the last time I asked for help because I knew that the topic would go up on the list without a reason for it, although thanking you is always a good reason

Khris · Sun 19/02/2012 17:54:39

You're welcome

Draft:
If you're reading this, I'm not one to bear grudges. If you can acknowledge that we have a point, don't hesitate to use this forum as intended.

Calin Leafshade · Sun 19/02/2012 19:00:38

Nah, fuck Khris.

Who's with me?!

DOWN WITH KHRIS.
DOWN WITH KHRIS.
DOWN WITH KHRIS.
DOWN WITH KHRIS.

He's just a stooge of the patriarchy, man.

Knox · Sun 19/02/2012 19:34:15

The best advice I can give is before posting a question, take an extra 10 minutes to search yourself...if after that your really really still cant find the solution, then ask away! Eventually you will have less questions as you gain experience and try problem solving yourself.

In the beginning I asked a gazillion questions, and luckily I found out farily early on that its sometimes better try yourself first...best way to learn imo. Sometimes I even had my post all written up, and before clicking the "post" button I just had an idea, tried it out and well, it worked...its tempting to ask for the solution instead of working a bit yourself on it first.

If that doesnt work, well you can always offer to pay Khris for his help...like I do hehee!

Miglioshin · Tue 21/02/2012 02:45:39

since it's not locked yet, I throw my two cents in...

While reading all this stuff I had the feeling that you (Draft) ask things before actually writing the code, maybe I'm wrong, maybe not but this isn't the point.

The point is that you have to notice that this forum is 'particular' in several ways and have many different rules than other 'lighter' forums (if you haven't noticed while reading the rules before register, because you did it right? Have you asked yourself why this forum put you questions that you have to answer right before you can register?

).

People like Khris are here in their spare time and put all their efforts in many things and one of them is to keep this forum polished and clear (so it will be easier to search in it)

I would like to share with you what I do before asking here around:

1. Check the dynamic help inside the editor
2. Check the on-line manual
3. Write my code and check if it works and if not
4. Check the dynamic help
5. Check the on-line manual
6. Stare at my code for at least half an hour wondering why it doesn't work and trying to have it written in a different way
7. Do something else (draw game graphic) while thinking about my code
8. Check again the day after, steps 1 - 2 - 3
9. Post here
(waiting for Khris or someone else, but usually Khris, to answer WHILE I keep going on in searching my solution...)

Cheers